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Mark
Joined: 10 Jun 2008
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Location: Denmark
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 Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:43 am Post subject: Dear Grumpy |
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Dear Grympyman (what a name you have given yourself!!  )
I must say, I don't know anything about this business yet, but reading you input makes me sad.
Not because you write about sad things, but it's the way you describe yourself, it is almost as you give up, before you even start.
I would really like to se your website, but I don't know how to find it, maybe you could send a link, and I will be happy to tell you my honest oppinion, witch maybe could be of intrest for you, since I would reprecent an avarage new comsumer.
The subjekt of how to save energi is FANTASTIC - especially for us up here in the northern contryes, and espesially after the fuel prices have gone up to an insane level (we pay 3 dollars for one litre gazoline right now!!!!!!)
So if I can do anything to help you get this book out to peoble, I be happy to help in any possible way.
Keep smiling Grumpyman - and life will smile back to you
All the best
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Mark
Joined: 10 Jun 2008
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Location: Denmark
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| Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:04 pm Post subject: Just an idea. |
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Hi again Grumpyman
Just had a thought - Why don't you connect with some of the big real-estate companies, and ask them if they maybe could be interested in some kind of co-work. In Denmark there is a big real-estate chain called Home, and I can think of "120 reasons" for them to give your book to every new house buyer.
Good luck
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Griff Grumbein
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| Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 11:59 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Grumpyoldman & Mark!
Wow, Mark, that's a GREAT IDEA! Between the two of you, you could make that go viral throughout the real estate industry.
Grumpyoldman, I think Mark has presented an excellent idea with outstanding opportunity potential! Maybe you two should JV and see if you can swing something with the Home real estate chain in Denmark. Get something together and working then present it to any and every real estate company you can find!
You guys need to get a dialog going and see what you can come up with, the possibilities are endless! (Not to mention how exciting it would be to read how it goes for you here in the forum, heh, heh!)
GO GET 'EM, GUYS!
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Mark
Joined: 10 Jun 2008
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Location: Denmark
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| Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:41 am Post subject: Hi Griff |
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Hi Griff
Thank you for your VERY positive input I be glad to help.
Just to mention something about the northern country’s, where i live, right now it is prime summer time, and its 15-18 degrees outside!!!!- Raining and very windy!!!!! So savings on heating expenses is very relevant.
Lots of smiles to everyone
Mark |
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jkeifer
Joined: 29 Mar 2006
Posts: 34
Location: Coudersport, PA
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Ahhh Grumpy, my favorite motivational speaker, LOL.
I've been reading through this thread and the abundance of great advice is amazing. Walker22's assessment was especially well stated. The "Overstock.com" model of shotgunning across various niches in one website isn't very beneficial when marketing your own products.
This may be the reason that your list is fairly unresponsive. 700 leads isn't too shabby, but if some those leads are interested in energy savings and others are wannabe pasta chefs, and so on... It's very tough to target follow up campaigns that will get you good results. Quality of a list can be much more important than quantity.
Having targeted websites that will draw specific visitors will give you much better results.
And, yes... you've got to price your products to say "I have value". $47 is not unreasonable at all for good info. If you're not sure, start at $19.95. It's better to start lower and work your prices up than the other way around. You don't want to anger the customers that just paid $75 and now see it for $25. 
Grumpy, did you take Ros' advice last year? That sounded like a winning combo to me by funneling your subscribers to your eBook via back-end sales.
I think what may really benefit you is some marketing 101. Have you ever considered getting a mentor or business coach? Terry Dean (terrydean.org) comes to mind as quite good. I think that you could really make them work for their fees, LOL.
I have to admire you for hangin' in there Grumpy. 98% would have given up a long time ago. In some strange way, you are the ultimate optimist!
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Rosalind Gardner
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Joined: 02 Nov 2005
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Location: Beautiful BC, Canada
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| Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 1:27 am Post subject: This week's newsletter is especially for you... |
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Hey Grumpy,
I wrote this week's NPT newsletter especially for you. You might even recognize your site in one of the articles?
Follow the advice and please don't wait another year to come back and report your findings. 
Cheers,
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ShezaJewel
Joined: 28 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 2:45 am Post subject: I have a couple secrets for you |
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Dear Mr. Grumpy: I have a couple secrets that I'm positive can be of assistance to your situation.....
1. Download these FREE eBooks. Then READ these books. Yes, it's a lot of material but they are extremely detail-oriented and specific for what your need sounds like.
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myws.sitesell.com/
myks.sitesell.com/
2. Next check out this link find.sitesell.com/ and watch the video. I promise you, if you follow these steps, your windows of opportunity of making money on the internet will be unlimited!
3. Thirdly, I would like you to change your negative mindset. There's a saying: What the mind can conceive and believe, it can achieve. So my friend, let's replace that negative mindset with a positive mindset! The other saying you should be aware of is: We become what we think about!
If we think we can, we can.
And if we think we can't, we can't.
It's all in the state of mind.
So go read those books, grab a hold of that positive mindset and don't look back. Run forward my friend! Then get started with a clean slate and that new positive mind!
Much luck my Dear Mr. Grumpy!
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mrcarter
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| Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 2:49 am Post subject: |
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Why not write a book on the joys of being grumpy.
After all, it's something that you enjoy and there is a huge target market. |
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Roy Carter
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Location: Cyprus
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| Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 4:06 am Post subject: one plus one = lots |
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Mr. Grumpy
Quick Gold Dust Tip for you...
One sales page per one ebook.
Roy |
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Rosalind Gardner
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| Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 1:24 pm Post subject: One sales page per ebook |
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Hi Roy,
You said...
| Quote: | | One sales page per one ebook. |
Grumpy actually does have a dedicated sales page for his energy-savings tips book - it's just that you have to go looking for it.
Cheers,
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andresberger
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| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:41 pm Post subject: Grumpy, maybe you fail because you don't test |
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Grumpy
Every market is DIFFERENT. What works extremely well in ones, fail miserably in others so because nobody knows, everybody should TEST.
I remember years ago when a guru was promoting a product, he was openly saying that he was putting his affiliate link and I clicked on this and paid, without erasing it or deleting my cookies as I do sometimes when I notice an affiliate link.
Maybe you are not preselling the right way. Maybe you push the sale to hard or you don't follow up or who knows... maybe the markets you are in don't buy or don't have extra money to spend.
The first thing you should do is get into a market that is willing to spend money, then everything is easier.
I was trying to sell in spanish latin american markets years ago without much success, then I turned to english markets, and although english is not my mother language, I'm doing good at affiliate marketing, but you have to learn a lot, if you are not learning new things everyday, you are going to be crushed by your competition.
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andresberger
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| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:55 pm Post subject: Grumpy, maybe you should focus |
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Maybe you learn slowly, so you should focus in only one thing at the time. If you do article marketing, try to not do anything else for a period until you test many methods and get results, because articles marketing works period, you definitely are doing it wrong.
If it does not get you readers from your resource box, it generates search engine traffic, but you have to do it right.
Also, don't make your website a fleamarket, that doesn't help either for people or the Search Engines.
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Jim Hutchinson
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| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:49 pm Post subject: Re: Grumpy, maybe you should focus |
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| andresberger wrote: | | Maybe you learn slowly, so you should focus in only one thing at the time. |
Andres
Those are some pretty harsh words without any followup. Maybe there is something that you think he can do better. If so, then tell him what you would change, instead of just leaving it as saying he is a slow learner and doing it wrong.
We are here to help people, not belittle them. So Andres, what recommendations do you have to make the articles better?
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andresberger
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 4:44 am Post subject: Re: Grumpy, maybe you should focus |
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| Jim Hutchinson wrote: | | andresberger wrote: | | Maybe you learn slowly, so you should focus in only one thing at the time. |
Andres
Those are some pretty harsh words without any followup. Maybe there is something that you think he can do better. If so, then tell him what you would change, instead of just leaving it as saying he is a slow learner and doing it wrong.
We are here to help people, not belittle them. So Andres, what recommendations do you have to make the articles better?
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I don't write any articles myself, so although I know how to write extremely well written articles, I cannot do it myself effectively in English, so that is one limitation for me. My english sucks and I make a lot of grammar mistakes (the misspellings are corrected by the word processor). I found a person at the US that is good at writing and make her write all my stuff, so Grumpy could do the same (anybody can do this). I pay $5 per 500 word quality articles. Logically, you must do more than $5 for this to work, but on average I earn $50 per article (to date, because there is residual income that I'm not counting), so there is a very good ROI for this, IF YOU DO IT RIGHT (if not, then forget about it).
Another thing Grumpy could do is videos. You could post video after video like crazy and start seeing sales coming, but keyword research is critical here also. And videos don't have to be world class, some Powerpoint with good advice is enough (GOOD ADVICE is extremely important). Videos work different in different markets, they are more powerful when you show something actionable or visually attractive (more difficult to create, but you could get spectacular results), more than information only based. Those videos could be also posted in your Wordpress blog for more exposure.
I even don't use my face or voice to do them. I bought a software that will talk for me, show a Powerpoint presentation and paste it in Movie Maker free XP software then mass post it to the videos sites with software, then bookmark the videos at social networking sites, then submit the RSS feed of the bookmarks to RSS directories and ping them. You should test if you need to followup with people or not. Not every market benefits from followup emails, the difficult ones (as Internet Marketing, Finance, etc) benefit the most from the long term communication and back end offers and others like one time problem solving maybe wouldn't benefit from followups to much or nothing at all, you should test this. But if you find that followups do increase profits, you should use an autoresponder. When I started out I couldn't afford Aweber, when I had the money to invest in Aweber, it took me one day to setup my first campaign and never email support since then.
Too technical? Well LEARN! how much time do you need? 1 week, 1 month, 1 year, 10 years? It doesn't matter if it will take 50 years to learn it, if I knew that this will make me successful I do it, no matter what. And you know it will be successful when you notice your firsts commissions (if not, then it is time to look at other niche). After you do it some time, you outsource it so you could multiply your time.
You already should found a pattern here. TEST, TEST, TEST more and when you thought the testing ended and your profits are high, TEST AGAIN, because the market could have changed.
Niche selection is also extremely important. Good niches are ones that people are passionate about (not health problems Grumpy, nobody even want to think about those issues until they got into problems, if you offer a solution the niche is right if you try to prevent them, is terrible niche), are desperate to fix or willing to take the time to master to be successful, and HAVE MONEY. I'm passionate about chess, but the majority of chess players are poor, so it probably will not be a good niche to be in (I tested a chess site some time ago without success, don't see many advertising companies on Google even now, so I think it is a very difficult niche to be in and I was sad as a result, but as you should not go to a place you are not invited, you shouldn't make offers to people that are not willing to pay you, very basic, but a lot of people don't get it).
For me, keyword research is a key point since I write more for SEO than for people, but writing for SEO and for people could bring even more profits, but this is a road I still can't do effectively.
In the beginning (3 years ago) I don't had any money to invest, I was living on $100 a month, I knew much less English than now, couldn't even monetize any website with Adsense nor ClickBank or even sell on eBay because every company send checks that I couldn't cash in my country (in Peru the banks would charge me more than the value of the check to cash it). Only after I got a US Bank Account I was able to receive checks, PayPal payments and all the normal stuff that everybody in the US take for granted.
Even now, when I try to promote some products as an Affiliate, I'm automatically filtered in CJ because of my country, but this is not a major issue now.
That is why I feel annoyed by Grumpy. Talk about limitations? I had MAJOR limitations that very few people in the world will face to make money on the Internet, except maybe Muslin girls (as I read a post sometime ago about a girl named "Ladan" that had to overcome even more obstacles than me).
The site at my signature was done in one day. Installed the blog, copy the blog template that I use for all my sites, optimize it for SEO, bought an IstockPhoto for $1 or $3(I purchased a somewhat larger for this I think), open PhotoShop, save the image, posted the articles from my assistant (ordered 5 to test, that was $25), made the sitemap and publish it. Still I'm sandboxed because of my $100 directory submission, but will wait some months and when It comes out of the Google Sandbox will see how much I made from the traffic per month to know if the niche is worth my time, if it is worth, then I will growth that site much more that a minisite.
Where in the world you could test a real business that will make you passive income for 1 day of work and $125 dollars? Other than the Internet it could be at fantasy land.
By the way, my site at the signature is all about Rocket Spanish, and all the affiliate links are cloaked but it doesn't matter, because If you really help people, they will buy from you and even make sure that you receive your hard earned commissions (as I experience over and over) for helping them.
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Andres Berger Garcia
Managing Director
http://www.english-to-spanish-translator.info/blog
The Easy Way To Learn Spanish
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