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aussie



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 12:02 am    Post subject: Wordpress Reply with quote

Hi!

I don't know why, but I have 2 home pages on my wordpress site. I have only just started to publish some of the content and for some reason I have 2 Home pages! Has anyone experienced this and if so, how did you get rid of it!

Thanks in advance,

Kimberley
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Griff Grumbein
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Kimberly,

Can you provide any additional details that could help us help you?

Are the pages identical?

Can you give us the link(s) to them so we can take a look?

How did you determine you have 2?

Any additional information would enhance the help effort! Wink

Griff
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aussie



Joined: 25 Jan 2008
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Location: Brisbane

PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi!

Firstly, thank you for your help. The pages are identical. The address is http://pottersbooks.com

I also have under OPTIONS - Reading -

Front Page
Front page displays:

Your latest posts

A static page (select below)

* Front page:Home
* Posts page:Select

Before I even did that, I still had 2 home pages except one had latest posts. Now both have my welcome on it.

I tried to PM you with the blog login but its disabled so hopefully you won't need it!

Thanks again
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aussie



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Location: Brisbane

PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:02 am    Post subject: Adding forms to wordpress Reply with quote

Hello again!

I have another query in which I hope you can help!

How do I add a contact form and newsletter sign up form to wordpress which I have through bluehost?

A BIGGGGG Thankyou in advance!

Kimberley Very Happy
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Griff Grumbein
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Kimberly!

Let me preface this post with this disclaimer: I have no experience with with WordPress (I use other programs), so based on my html / css / php experience, I will make an attempt to answer your questions. Hopefully an experienced WordPress will chime in to assist.

Let me also caution you: NEVER, NEVER, NEVER OFFER YOUR LOGIN DETAILS TO ANYONE YOU DON'T ABSOLUTELY KNOW AND TRUST! While I will unequivocally state that I would never abuse the information, you don't know me from Adam, only from this forum. You really have no way of knowing what I or anyone else would / could do with that information if you provided it. (If you haven't already done so, read the hacker threads.)

It appears to me that you do not have 2 home pages, you have a duplicate entry in your WP menu system for the top menu. Check your code for duplicate entries. Note that they may not be back to back with each other.

Could not see any "OPTIONS" options to investigate.

It sounds like during the course of editing your site you may have inadvertently added, moved, hidden and/or deleted some of these different sections.

If you don't have backups, I would recommend forcing yourself to get into the habit of creating them for just this reason. I always have an up-to-the-minute backup and only save changes to my site after I have confirmed my edits are correct and do not affect any other areas of my site. After confirmation of this, I back it up. This makes it easier to revert back if I make an editing mistake and DON'T catch an error right away. My backups are named with the change incorporated and date/time stamped for easy retrieval / reloading. It only takes a couple seconds to make a backup as opposed to hours spent troubleshooting / rebuilding from scratch.

I'll let a WP "guru" chime in on adding the contact form and newsletter sign up form to your WP. Seems to me though, that there are probably add-ons, plug-ins or extensions (with full installation instructions) available for WP. Just make sure you get the latest versions and keep them up to date (for security purposes).

Hope this helps a bit! Smile

Griff
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BradleyD.Haslam
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Kimberley,

First, how much experience do you have with
manipulating html (or other) code?
Because the easiest way to insert forms and such is manually.
I would explain the process,
if I knew it wasn't just gonna overwhelm you Wink

Your double home page issue is actually a double link issue.
And it's probably fixable by editing a header.php or main-nav.php etc.
But chances are, it's not a 'manual edit' thing.

If it was you that put in the "articles" and "blog" links,
then if you added "home" at the same time,
it's probably because "home" is a defalt page,
and adding it again creates this problem.
Just remove the extra mention of "home page"
and see if it a link still appears to it.

Each theme is SO different, that I really can't say.
But I'm sure it doesn't have anything to do with the static page option.

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NEVER, NEVER, NEVER OFFER YOUR LOGIN DETAILS TO ANYONE

True.
However, when letting someone have access to help you,
what I do is create a dummy account.
Username: temp Password: password
Then just delete the account as soon as they are done.

If you'd like you can email me:
NPT <at> ContactBrad <dot> com
And we can chat further.
K?

Cheers!
Brad.
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aussie



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi!

Thank you both for your help. In regards to giving login details, I was going to change them straight after if it was needed!

As for html experience... I'm an internet virgin and am getting there! I recently came across 3 links that have a video tutorial on basic html and they are...

newbietrainingvideos.com/samplevideos/15.html

newbietrainingvideos.com/samplevideos/16.html

newbietrainingvideos.com/samplevideos/17.html

If I recall correctly, I searched in Google and found them. But, although I am aware of the basics I have ZERO experience! I am less likely to get overwhelmed if I have a step by step in laymans terms so if you are able to help, I will gladly take you up on that Bradley!

The current theme is temporary as I still haven't found what I like but either way I will be going back on there shortly to see about the double home page. Griff, an I ask what you mean about checking my code for duplicate entries? And how do you create a back up?

Thank you again to you both for your help! I dare say Bradley, I will be emailing you soon!

Cheers,
Kimberley
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Griff Grumbein
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Kimberly!
Quote:
. . .can I ask what you mean about checking my code for duplicate entries?. . .

Actually, Brad said best what I was trying to say about "checking your code":
Quote:
Your double home page issue is actually a double link issue.
And it's probably fixable by editing a header.php or main-nav.php etc.
But chances are, it's not a 'manual edit' thing.

If it was you that put in the "articles" and "blog" links,
then if you added "home" at the same time,
it's probably because "home" is a defalt page,
and adding it again creates this problem.
Just remove the extra mention of "home page"
and see if it a link still appears to it.

That's what I meant.

Quote:
And how do you create a back up?

A back up is simply a periodically a saved copy of the file / site, etc. with the most recent information that it contained.

For example, let's say we're making "squeezepage.html" with graphics and javascripts:

write the basic html "code" on the page along with my text and links
save the page to disk
view the page for format and correct links, edit if needed and save the page again
add and position a graphic, view page and confirm proper display, save the page again
add first javascript, view page for proper operation, save page
repeat the process for each revision until the desired result is achieved.

It sounds extreme to start, but as you gain experience in design and "coding" you'll not need to save so often. But anytime I make a major modification, I make sure I have saved a copy (back up) of the file before I start editing it, and then successive saves as it develops. It also let's me revert back if one of my tweaks causes a drop in traffic, etc. It helps me with "tweaking and testing". (It also comes in handy for those unexpected teknickeldifusicalties that happen from time to time when man and machine meet. Wink)

Note that I do all my work offline, then upload the changes. Before I do I also create a backup of the site on my server using the features in my cpanel.

I hope this helps. Smile

Griff
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aussie



Joined: 25 Jan 2008
Posts: 78
Location: Brisbane

PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes that does help, Thank you!

Literally, just before I read your post I changed my home page from published to draft and that seems to have done the trick! I still have the welcome in there but no double pages!

Thank you again!

Cheers!

Kimberley
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BradleyD.Haslam
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
came across 3 links that have a video tutorial
Quote:

I searched in Google and found them.

This puts you WAY ahead of the average "virgin" Kimberly.
Keep this up, and we'll see you on google too! SOON! Very Happy

Quote:
I changed my home page from published to draft and that seems to have done the trick

This is proof of the theme having a "home page" link built in,
and adding "home page" somewhere else has caused this problem.
(it probably asked you for these links on setup. "pages you want to include" or something.)

Quote:
The current theme is temporary as I still haven't found what I like

Think about the user experience. Not what you like. K?

Quote:
I dare say Bradley, I will be emailing you soon!

No problem, that's why I'm here.
(In-frequently lately. But with good reasons. LOL)

Glad we could help.
Cheers!
Brad.

ps.
Griff,
Thanks for helping out so much while I'm so busy.
You're awesome my friend.
And I won't forget it Wink

Laterz!
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aussie



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Location: Brisbane

PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Brad! Very Happy
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Griff Grumbein
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@Kimberly: Brad is right, you've got MOXIE! Additionally, by not just waiting for someone else's answers but researching the answers for yourself, you're one step ahead of the herd. That kind of moxie is what makes successful people, PERIOD. You're gonna be great at this! Cool

@Brad: Always my pleasure Smile, I know you have a LOT on your plate. . .(oh, and memory not required! Laughing)
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aussie



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Location: Brisbane

PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shucks guys! You two really know how to make a girl blush. Thank you so much for the confidence boost and all your help!

Until next time...Have a good one!

Thanks again!

Cheers, Kimberley Very Happy
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Jim Hutchinson
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Kimberley

Sorry for getting here so late. I was in bed for 4 days after surgery.

I like the template you have on your site. It looks like you are doing great with FileZilla now. Very Happy

Just a tip for you on the home page thing. Since you deactivated one version by changing it to draft, you can still use it by editing it and using it replace the default home page. When you edit that draft page, look on the right menu bar in WordPress for Post Slug.

That is a shorter version of the page title, so if you just put the word home in the box and save your changes, the new page will be the default home page after you change its status to Published.

I have seen others create different versions of pages, using different names of course, and rotate them bi-weekly or monthly to monitor the results. You will hear that referred to as split testing.

Hope that helps.

Jim Hutchinson
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aussie



Joined: 25 Jan 2008
Posts: 78
Location: Brisbane

PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Jim!

Any tid bit of info never goes astray. I only figured out the other day how to add pages to my footer! So, I am getting there!

I hope all is well after your op. Make sure you take it easy and don't get into too much mischief too soon!

Cheers,

Kimberley Very Happy
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