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Gerardas Norkus



Joined: 22 Nov 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 10:38 am    Post subject: Best ways to build an email list? Reply with quote

Hi,

I think you agree that "money is in the list"?

Currently I am trying to build a list using only free marketing methods like articles, forums, traffic exchanges. However, I am not very impressed with the results so far.

Of course, I understand that my site copy may suck too, and convert poorly.

Anyway, can anyone share any list building secrets? What works for you? What doesn't?

Any other ideas related to list building?

Thank you very much.
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Rosalind Gardner
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Joined: 02 Nov 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Gerardas,

Those methods should be working with you.

Can I ask you what percentage of visitors to your site actually sign up for your newsletter?

That might be the best place to start..

Cheers,
Rosalind
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Gerardas Norkus



Joined: 22 Nov 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Rosalind,

yes, you are right. I know I should track and test. I should also use split testing to improve my web copy.

I use my own split testing and tracking scripts for my other site. I know my site's ROI, visitor value and other important metricks for any of advertising campaigns that I run with my "paid offers" site. However, it is not customizable to use with other sites.

Unfortunately, currently I don't use any scripts to test and track with my new site, and wonder what you could recommend for this purpose? I think that readers of your forum would also be interested in this topic, although it's for more advanced Internet marketers.

As for other methods to build a list, I heard that creating a great report and giving it away to list owners for distribution could really boost the list. What do you think of that?
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rr



Joined: 23 Dec 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Unfortunately, currently I don't use any scripts to test and track with my new site, and wonder what you could recommend for this purpose?


You can buy a seperate tracking software or if your mailing list has the ability to track you can use it to track the clicks.
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Rosalind Gardner
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Gerardas,

Aweber is the only autoresponder service that I recommend here at NPT. I've used a lot of different services, but Aweber's is by far the most feature-packed, and includes a number of different ways to test and track your campaign results.

In addition to being able to see how many subs you get daily, you can see how many unsubscribe on a daily basis, or from a particular mailing.

Better yet, you can also check how many of your subs open your mail (if you're doing HTML mailings), and how many click on which links within the mailing itself.

A thorough review of that data will show you what you're doing right, and which of your efforts may require improvement.

You can learn more about Aweber here.

Hope that helps!

Cheers,
Ros
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Lynn Terry



Joined: 01 Dec 2005
Posts: 53
Location: TN, USA

PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 3:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Best ways to build an email list? Reply with quote

I agree - Aweber is the way to go Wink

I host all of my mailing lists, autoresponders - and now Feed Broadcasters too - in my one account at Aweber.

Gerardas Norkus wrote:
Currently I am trying to build a list using only free marketing methods like articles, forums, traffic exchanges. However, I am not very impressed with the results so far.


You can hit some of the active marketing forums and ask them to review your copy and give you some suggestions. This may prove very helpful to you in making changes that will encourage a higher conversion rate.

One "free marketing method" that you didnt mention above is SEO. Have you optimized your page to rank well for a specific term? This is a great way to build a list, because you are putting your offer in front of a market that is specifically searching for that information.

What is it that you offer, exactly? What makes your newsletter worth giving you an email address... or what sets you apart from others in the same industry? Make sure you are talking up those benefits (not just your features) in the sales copy - convince them of why they should sign up... now Wink
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Rosalind Gardner
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Joined: 02 Nov 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Radhika,

I agree with Lynn's suggestion that you might want to consider optimizing your pages for better SEO rankings.

For example, your newsletter archive files are names as follows:

internet-marketing-newsletter-issue1.php
internet-marketing-newsletter-issue2.php

And your page title for the first one is "Internet Marketing Newsletter" while the title of the article is "Here's a Sneaky Website...".

The article is in fact about Anik Singal's "Affiliate Classroom".

You've used 'sneaky website' to arouse the reader's interest, but you may want to use "Affiliate Classroom" in both the meta tags and the article title to optimize for that term.

Too, to get more visitors to those pages, you may want to add descriptions of your newsletter content to your newsletter archive page.

We should always strive to give our visitors what they're looking for in as few clicks as possible.

Hope that helps!

Cheers,
Ros
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Lynn Terry



Joined: 01 Dec 2005
Posts: 53
Location: TN, USA

PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rosalind Gardner wrote:
Too, to get more visitors to those pages, you may want to add descriptions of your newsletter content to your newsletter archive page.


That's a really good idea! In fact, I am going to do that on my own archive listing Wink Very Happy

Thanks, Ros!
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Rosalind Gardner
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Lynn,

I dunno... I think you'd be hard-pressed to get more organized than you already are! Smile

Cheers,
Ros
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Lynn Terry



Joined: 01 Dec 2005
Posts: 53
Location: TN, USA

PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, that one page was actually a mess until yesterday - you motivated me to completely revamp the archives page! Very Happy Here's the results: http://www.selfstartersweeklytips.com/archives.htm . I'm going to track results for the next 30 days and expect I'll see great overall improvements in the stats.

Thanks again for the tip! Wink
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