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deborah
Joined: 03 Oct 2006 Posts: 18
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Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 7:28 pm Post subject: Did You Use a Lawyer to Set up Your Business |
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I talked with a lawyer today and got some prices. She wasn't all that good a salesperson, because I don't see what she offers that I can't do on my own.
What I need is:
1) trademark search;
2) register for a trademark;
3) and then set up my business as a corporation.
It looks like I can do a trademark search via a company on the web (Ros might suggest some somewhere), that I can register through the USPTO myself without having to pay an attorney's overhead, and set up the business myself. I've set up a nonprofit on my own before and many of the steps appear to be the same; in the meantime, I could work as a sole prop.
Am I missing anything? Is there a really good reason to use a lawyer besides saving me the hassle of having to do the above myself? |
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larissa
Joined: 31 Jan 2006 Posts: 21
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Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:27 pm Post subject: Re: Did You Use a Lawyer to Set up Your Business |
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Am I missing anything? Is there a really good reason to use a lawyer besides saving me the hassle of having to do the above myself?
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You mentioned using the USPTO website in your post, so I'll assume for a moment that you live within the United States. If your goal is to avoid being entangled in a potential lawsuit, it won't work. You'll be named personally in any lawsuit against your corporation.
I see it happen all the time. People wrongly assume that because they're doing business as a corporation, that it somehow prevents an aggrieved party from naming them personally in the lawsuit. You'll have to hire an attorney to represent the corporation. You cannot represent the corporation in court unless you have a license to practice law. You can, however, represent yourself in court.
Some food for thought... U.S. corporations are somewhat cumbersome and antiquated as one-person business vehicles. You should study the literature pertaining to LLC's -- you might find that they're just what you're looking for, and that the filing fees are less and that the regulatory requirements are less of a hassle.
You seem smarter than most, so I doubt you'll make any major mistakes that will come back to haunt you. But minor mistakes can genuinely screw you up, too. Given that you're looking for Rosalind to make a recommendation regarding a trademark search company -- when the USPTO has an excellent search tool that's free right on their website -- suggests to me that you should invest some time to really study this carefully before you screw yourself.
In many instances (not all), an attorney is later needed to untangle the mess people make for themselves. Deborah, you CAN do this on your own, just please make sure you know what the hell you're doing.
Good luck!  |
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deborah
Joined: 03 Oct 2006 Posts: 18
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 1:22 am Post subject: |
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Oh, I'm not looking for Rosalind to recommend a company. She did in her book, and I simply could not recall the name when I wrote my previous post. I have a search company in my files if I want to use one.
Actually, my main goal is not about being named personally in a lawsuit. I like the LLC format and include that in my term 'corporation' although I didn't exactly specify it.
The USPTO does have a lot of search tools, and I've used them all and have not found the term I wanted already listed (trademarked or registered). I suppose I could go ahead and apply without a more throrough search, but it seems a more thorough search (in all 50 states as well as federal, etc) would assure me that no one will come up later and say they had the name...although, I suppose that is what the USPTO would do, isn't it?
It's probably less expensive to just pay the USPTO and forego the search. The USPTO will reject it if they find someone using the same mark.
There must be a reason people pay for trademark searches before applying through the USPTO. I'll have to figure out why next. I have a friend who is a patent attorney, so maybe I can ask him this one small question.  |
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