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vwilkins
Joined: 22 Nov 2005 Posts: 7
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Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 7:47 pm Post subject: Free websites and Free hosting |
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| Is it hard to generate income with the free websites and free hosting sites |
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Rosalind Gardner Site Admin
Joined: 02 Nov 2005 Posts: 797 Location: Beautiful BC, Canada
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 2:15 am Post subject: |
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Hello vwilkins,
Good question! I see a lot of newcomers who try to save a little money and try to do business using free hosting accounts!
BAD Move for several reasons.
First of all, those who do so lose traffic to the advertising that is placed on those sites.
If you read my book, you know what happened to my site that was on a 'free' hosting service... it disappeared overnight!
Surfers are less trusting of sites that aren't top-level domains.
Most merchants won't let you sign up to their program without a top-level domain.
Last, but certainly not all, nor least, is the fact that it looks really, really cheap when you don't have your own domain.
Domains are $1.99 at Godaddy now, a little more at iPowerWeb, and hosting runs around ten bucks a month almost anywhere.
You may want to check out the Build Your Web Site section of NetProfitsToday.com.
Hope that helps... I'm going back to slaving over changes to a site.
Cheers,
Ros
Last edited by Rosalind Gardner on Wed Dec 07, 2005 3:19 am; edited 1 time in total |
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vwilkins
Joined: 22 Nov 2005 Posts: 7
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Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 6:59 pm Post subject: Thank You |
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| Thank you for your advise Rosalind, I truely value it. |
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sellportal
Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Posts: 58 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:29 pm Post subject: May I suggest |
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That if you think you will creat more then 1 site in the future. Go for a reseller hosting directly.
So what is a reseller hosting?
The normal hosting is when you pay a hosting company for the rights to put 1 domain on one of their servers (and with a certain amount of disk space and other techie stuff connected to the pruchase).
Reseller hosting works the other way around.
You pay for disk space (plus the techie stuff like bandwidth, scripts and so on), and you can create the domain on the server yourself!
What you get is like a master setup. From that setup can you create new accounts (1 account=1 domain), normally as many as you like, until your run out of disk space (or the techie stuff).
It really is not complicated at all and it will save you a lot of headache.
The cost will be somewhere around $9-$15 per month and for that money will you get enough space to put up at least a coule of hundreds of mini-sites (5-20 pages) or some 10-20 100-thousands of pages websites with a lot of visitors.
It is easy to find. When you go to a host to check prices, check for hosting and for reseller accounts.
Normally the reseller accounts come with everything you'll ever need. Things like ftp, email, webmail, spamcheck for the mail, databases, forums like this one and a lot of other goodies.
Kenth |
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Rosalind Gardner Site Admin
Joined: 02 Nov 2005 Posts: 797 Location: Beautiful BC, Canada
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 3:21 am Post subject: |
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Hi all,
You can usually sell that additional space if you have a reseller account, can't you, Kenth?
I know that's what Joel, my virtual assistant, does for his web design clients.
That way he knows exactly what's going on the server, 'cause he's designing the sites himself.
I suppose there would be drawbacks to selling to 'just anybody' that you might like to point out.
Cheers,
Ros |
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sellportal
Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Posts: 58 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 5:37 am Post subject: Selling space ... |
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Yes Rose,
Unused space can be sold.
The reseller account was ment to be used by resellers
Back when 1 site was what people used online.
Now as domains has become so cheap, running several, or even a lot of sites is so low cost that there is nothing talking against it.
Especially as it is so easy (and cheap) to get resell rights for products. And many of them come with pre-made web sales letters you can use. Just register a domain, put it on the reseller account, tweak the web salespage a bit to not be a clone (to be somewhat different then all the other people that have done the same).
It does increase your chances of selling.
Kenth |
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vwilkins
Joined: 22 Nov 2005 Posts: 7
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Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 3:29 am Post subject: |
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kenth
The unused space that is sold is it used for selling ad space ?
Thanks
Vikki |
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sellportal
Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Posts: 58 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 5:27 am Post subject: You can think even bigger |
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Hi Vikki,
Even better, it can be sold to others and allow them to put a domain (or domains) up there alongside the domains you have.
You could probably sell hosting to some 50-100 persons + have your own domains as well on a $15 per month reseller account.
Selling small accounts like 5-10Mb of space for a minisite for $5 per month could make you $500 per month.
But most people find the thought of selling hosting frightening actually.
If you would consider this, then choosing a hosting provider that allow reselling but do all the support for you is the way to go.
Also what you asked is doable. You can of course use any unused space to sell ad space as well.
Kenth |
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boysbach
Joined: 27 Dec 2005 Posts: 195
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Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 6:34 am Post subject: |
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Is this the same as the reseller accounts with Godaddy. I am new to this side of the game and see that Godaddy have resellers accounts. Also how do you get more than one domain uploaded to the one account?
Sorry for the basic questions.
Bev |
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sellportal
Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Posts: 58 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 6:54 am Post subject: Reseller accounts |
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Hi Bev,
It should be the same (Godaddy reseller and any other reseller).
There can be minor differencies when it comes to whats included, how to configure things and so on.
A normal account is when your domain is hosted by a hosting company and you have one par of login credentials (1 login name and 1 password).
The reseller account is different.
Your first domain (when you start your reseller account) will have 2 different logins.
1. The reseller account.
This is where you create new (normal) accounts. You fill out some information like domain name, allowed bandwidth, allowed space on disk and some other basic info about the domain you want to host (including desired login name and password). When finished you create the account (click the button create!).
Out pops the information you normally get when registering a domain.
So this main account is like an administrative program that controlls all the other domains.
2. Normal login
But your second login to the domain allows you to handle this domain only (looks like all the other domains).
This is a bit more technical then what most people would like, but it actually is quite straightforward.
More questions ...
Just keep'em coming!
Kenth |
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boysbach
Joined: 27 Dec 2005 Posts: 195
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Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 8:37 am Post subject: |
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Hi Kenth
Thanks for that. I am struggling here so any help would be appreciated. I like many others are trying to break into the internet market on a very low or no budget. I joined godaddy's reseller plan (have super reseller account) but I can't find anything other than resellers plans to put in my storefront. I can't find domains, hostings and the like and have no idea how to start to look to host my domains.
I have bought a number of domains (some built some waiting) and many are with godaddy. But not hosted at present, so could I host them using my resellers account and if that is the case how would I do it.
I really appreciate all the help you are giving me.
Thanks Rosalind for having this forum available to rookies like me.
Bev |
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sellportal
Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Posts: 58 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:30 pm Post subject: More details |
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Here's to anyone looking for a more detailed explanation on what a reseller hosting account is.
Go here http://www.gold-affiliate-programs.com/hosting.html
and download the pdf. Nothing to register or fill out, just right click and save.
Read that one and get back to me here for more answers and I'll keep adding them to that document.
It's not very technical or difficult as one many think.
Kenth |
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boysbach
Joined: 27 Dec 2005 Posts: 195
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 12:28 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Kenth you have been most helpful
Bev |
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sellportal
Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Posts: 58 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 7:03 pm Post subject: . |
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| Your Welcome Bev |
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jpatriar
Joined: 29 Jan 2006 Posts: 32 Location: Watertown, MA
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Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Kenth,
thanks, I wasn't aware of reseller accounts.
I do have a couple of questions.
Do the buyers of the reseller accounts need to register a domain or do they get a sub-domain off the originally registered domain?
I've seen forum signatures with multiple sites listed, is it possible that these webmasters purchased a reseller account and are using it to host several web sites as a lower cost solution?
Lastly, what about server space, bandwidth etc.. can it be easily changed if a site hosted on a reseller account becomes popular?
much appreciated,
thanks
J |
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